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<h1>Reasons the 'Once Saved, Always Saved' Doctrine is a False Teaching</h1>
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From the macroscopic perspective, the bible does not teach once saved always saved.
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Most proponents of the theory try to show evidence in the bible (for Once Saved Always Saved), for example:
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	In John 10:28-30, Jesus says: "I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. "
		and "My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are one."
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		However, the inability for Satan to snatch us from Jesus' hand simply means that Jesus is more powerful than Satan.
		  It means that Jesus is the Good Shepherd, who never turns his back on the flock.  He always remembers us and will never leave us.
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		  But consider for a moment that Jesus refers to his obedient children, who are keeping his commandments, and that this does not stop one of his flock from leaving him, and backsliding against his commandments.
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			"I give them Eternal Life, and they shall never perish":
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			 Jesus says he gives us ETERNAL life (the proponents stress ETERNAL, implying that we cannot lose it once we have it).
			 But consider for a moment that Eternal Life refers to the moment after being judged and arriving in heaven, not when we are born again.
			 Consider that being born again is the time that we accept Jesus into our lives, and commit to living like he did.
			 We are then the good children who pick up their cross and follow him Daily.
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			 	That view allows the possibility that one may lose their
			  salvation, if for example, they became a preacher (after being born again) who started blaspheming the Holy Ghost in front of the church.  Could this pastor not lose his salvation despite
			  being born again?  Some say, Oh but that is the unpardonable sin.
			  Yes, then consider the pastor who was born again at the age of 14, who eventually started a church and slowly stole more and more of the church bank account to fund lavish personal material objects, such as jets, and defrauded the church.
			  That pastor did not blaspheme the Holy Ghost, but certainly did not follow Jesus' examples.
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			  	Eternal life is a gift that we do not deserve.  We dont achieve eternal salvation all at once when we are saved, we instead promise to walk in Gods way when we are saved, and then
			  	 Jesus hands us the gift of eternal life when we are judged by Jesus.
			  	 <p>How do you arrive at that conclusion, brother in Christ? The way we arrive at this is by listening to the opinion of over 50 people on YouTube who have toured Heaven and Hell with Jesus (either from an NDE, or a vision, or a dream).

			  	 They lived to tell about the experience, and the solid consensus is that Lukewarm, Unrepetant, and Backslidden Christians have been seen in Hell.
			  	 Most of the time, the story behind the Christian is understandable: they were born again early in life, went to church and thought they were saved and forgot to repent of their new sins.
			  	 Or, they committed horrible acts, such as the pastor stealing from the church funds.  But consider the lukewarm Christian, who uses Christs blood like a playground.
			  	 For one, who has neither forgiven others and held grudges, that lukewarm Christians repentences may not have been heard.  For another, who was worldly, attended church, but failed to
			  	 spread the gospel to a single person (especially her girlfriends).
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			  	 After watching these on YouTube, I decided my duty was to summarize the theology behind this concept.
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			  	 As you can see, the above biblical examples have probably been misconstrued - to allow people to believe they can be saved once in some haphazard manner and then sin the rest of their lives.
			  	  	<p>Unfortunately, many churches use the same logic to maintain revenue (IE a constant revenue base exists).
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				 			  	 		As you can see, if you have a little patience and realize the meaning may be Eternal Life after being judged, you may decide it is better to live like Paul the apostle did:
				 "I pummel my body and lead it as a slave".
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		Moving on, we find real scriptural evidence that Once Saved Always Saved is False.</h1>
	<p>On a side note, the bible never actually contradicts itself.  We as humans misinterpret things.
In our case here, it is more logical to follow what the bible does say about the subject, leading us to believe that we can lose our salvation if we are not Good Christians:
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<li>  The Bible says that maintaining faith requires great effort, a “hard fight.” (Jude 3, 5).
 Early Christians who had already accepted Christ were told: “Keep working out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”—Philippians 2:12.
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   The Bible warns against serious sins that will keep a person from entering God’s Kingdom in 1 Corinthians:  (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)   Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom?
      Do not be misled.    Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters,  adulterers,  men who submit to homosexual acts,
       men who practice homosexuality,
       thieves, greedy people,
        drunkards,  revilers,  and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom.
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        The Bible warns against other serious sins in (Galatians 5:19-21) that may keep us from entering Heaven:
            Now the works of the flesh are plainly seen, and they are sexual immorality, uncleanness, brazen conduct (disrespecting authority), idolatry,
            spiritism, hostility, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, dissensions, divisions, sects, envy, drunkenness, wild parties and things like these.
            I am forewarning you about these things, the same way I already warned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit God’s Kingdom.
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           	   If salvation could not be lost, such warnings would be meaningless. Instead, the Bible shows that someone who has been saved can fall away by returning to a practice of serious sin.
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           	           	   For example, Hebrews 10:26 states: “If we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there
           	           	   is no longer any sacrifice for sins left.” (Hebrews 6:4-6;) (2 Peter 2:20-22)
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           	    Jesus emphasized the importance of maintaining faith by giving an illustration in which he likened himself to a vine and his followers to branches on that vine.
           	    Some of them would at one time demonstrate faith in him by their fruits, or actions, yet would later fail to do so and be “thrown out like a [fruitless] branch,” losing their salvation. (John 15:1-6)
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           	               	    The apostle Paul used a similar illustration, saying that Christians who do not maintain their faith “will be lopped off.” (Romans 11:17-22).
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           	   Christians are commanded to “keep on the watch.” (Matthew 24:42; 25:13).
           	   Those who fall asleep spiritually, whether by practicing “works belonging to darkness” or by not fully performing the works that Jesus commanded, lose their salvation.
           	    (Romans 13:11-13); (Revelation 3:1-3).
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           	    Many scriptures show that those who have been saved must still endure faithfully to the end. (Matthew 24:13; Hebrews 10:36; 12:2, 3; Revelation 2:10)
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           	    First-century Christians expressed joy when they learned that fellow believers were enduring in their faith. (1 Thessalonians 1:2, 3; 3 John 3, 4)
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           	    Does it seem reasonable that the Bible would stress faithful endurance if those who did not endure would be saved anyway?
           	    <li> Only when his death was imminent did the apostle Paul feel that his salvation was assured. (2 Timothy 4:6-8)
           	    <p>Earlier in his life, he recognized that he could still miss out on salvation if he gave in to fleshly desires.
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           	    He wrote: “I pummel my body and lead it as a slave, so that after I have preached to others, I myself should not become disapproved somehow.”—1 Corinthians 9:27; Philippians 3:12-14.

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           	    <p>The unrepetant souls.  Those who commit sins as a Christian and do not repent.
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           	    The unforgiven sins: Those people who hold grudges and do not forgive others risk having Jesus not forgive them for sins.
           	    <li>Pastors, who have been saved, who have blasphemed the Holy Spirit by spreading False Gospel (the unforgivable sin).
           	       These pastors have been seen in hell in NDEs.
           	    <li>Pastors who Have been saved, who have stolen money from the church and have not repented.
           	    <li>NDE list: Those who have seen Christians in Hell.


					<p>	<a target=_blank href=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VErocgTw_m8>Dream of lukewarm Christians Going To Hell</a>
					<a target=_blank href=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29i7eRwgaPk>Part II</a>
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           	    Training Pastors:
           	    <a target=_blank href=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvdOMwYxASk>Paul Washer explains that Pastors should not promise immediate salvation, but instead a long walk with Christ.
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(Matthew 7:21) Not everyone who says Lord Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but instead those who do the will of my Father.
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Twenty One Signs of Becoming a Luke Warm Christian (by Pastor Kevin Shale)
(Since you are lukewarm, I will spit you out) (Rev 3:16)</h1>
<small><p><a target=_blank href=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBMuUrygRlo>21 Warning Signs of Becoming a Lukewarm Christian (Video)</a>
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Prayer is Non Existent or Mechanical
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You know the word but do not really live it
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Thoughts about Eternal matters no longer grip your heart
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You indulge in inward and outward sin without feeling devastated
<li>A longing for holiness and being set apart is not a passion


<li>The pursuit of money or posessions grossly overshadows your persuit of Christ
<li>You can listen to Worship music or Carnal music without reasoning or justification
<li>You can hear non-Christians mock God or the Church without feeling grieved
<li>Your main concerns are your own pleasures and comforts
<li>You no longer have a deep hunger for God
<li>You no longer live with a full and grateful heart
<li>You have little concern for the souls of others
<li>You always see your own level of spiritiuality in positive terms
<li>You are more concerned with your own pet doctrines than peoples souls
<li>Sports and Entertainment and Toys and Gadgets are to the point of idolatry in your life
<li>You are more concerned with your outward image than your inward spiritual reality
<li>You have a full head of biblical knowledge but a heart of stone
<li>You are driven by the lust of flesh in a major way: Various addictions: Porn or Sexual Sin, Drugs, Gambling, Alcohol etc.
<li>You admire Gods word but see no major commitment to follow it
<li>You go to church to feel good instead of to hear and respond (obedience)
<li>You desperately pursue validation from Men rather than from God




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